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I Want You In My Film – Please Send Me $250 via Western Union

July 15th, 2009

Actor scams. When will they end? They’ll end when actors, wannabe actors and wannabe actors’ parents wise up and get educated to how the business works.

What prompts this little rant? I received an email yesterday from an acting related blog I’m apparently subscribed to that led me to a link to a message board at backstage dot com. For those who don’t know, BACKSTAGE is trade type publication that originally was centered on NY theater and film issues and has for some years also been also covered the LA market as well. It is a legitimate publication, so what I have to say is not a criticism of Backstage.

Here’s the link: Backstage Message Board

Do me a favor and finish reading here before bolting for the message board. I’ll give you a taste of what you’ll find. Here’s the way the discussion begins:

Is anyone familiar with Peter McMahon? He wants my 14 yr. old daughter to be in his new movie. I am excited about this, is it for real? …he said I needed to send him $250. for the SAG, AFTRA, and ACT memberships. He said he could get her 150 hours in in about 3-5 days, because he owns a radio station, cable network, and so on in New York. We were in touch via telephone. He got my daughter’s resume from ***talent.biz, where she can go for casting calls, gigs, and so on for $20.00 per month. I haven’t heard from him since Friday night, and he said he’d send us a “confirmation” for our airline ticket on Sunday night, or Monday morning. It is Monday after 2pm, and he hasn’t returned my phone call. I realize that I am not high on his priority list, since she has 0 experience, but I am getting nervous. His phone number is out of Nashville, TN. Thank you for ANY info you can give me!!

How many red flags do you spot in this post? For the promise from a complete stranger, via a contact across state lines and over the internet, some well meaning but completely clueless parent is about to waste her money, at the very least, and quite possibly jeopardize the safety of her 14 year old daughter. Unbelievable. But believe it, it’s true.

Let me save you some time it will take to read the entire thread on Backstage. An frighteningly large number of other posters responded that they had already sent the scammer identified as “Peter McMahon” at least $250 to be ‘cast’ in his supposed film project called “Italian in the South”. At least one person posted that they had already purchased their tickets to NYC but were waiting for Mr. McMahon to forward their itinerary.

Uh…don’t hold your breath on getting that ‘itinerary’. But this poor person wasn’t the only one taken in by this rather transparent scam:

All of this is happening to me now I have been talking to him peter mcmahon [sic] all day and am suppose to fly out to new york tomoorow [sic] I sent him 250 through western union. I think I got taken.

Ya think?

And this:

Same thing happened to me yesterday. I had noticed this blog yesterday but thought surely that he would call you. I actually called him last night and he answered and said that he would be sending my schedule and itenerary soon. Has anyone else heard anything??

And finally someone injects a bit of good old common sense:

DO NOT FLY ANYWHERE. Obviously, we are missing some information in this situation, but this simply cannot be legit. I guess this COULD just be a money scam, in which case you will never hear from this guy again. But if he was intending to actually fly a child to NYC, it sounds like more than a scam: it sounds more like sex trafficing [sic] . I’m not kidding.

Listen up actors, wannabe actors, and parents who want their kids to be the next big thing in TV and the movies:

I don’t even know where to start listing the DON’T and NEVERs that apply but here are a few in no particular order of importance:

1. NEVER pay any agent upfront money to ‘represent’ you or your child in the entertainment business. That is NOT the way a legitimate agent / client relationship works.

Agent’s work FOR talent in a effort to secure employment. AFTER the talent books a job and is paid, the agent will receive a commission. NOT beforehand.

NOT on the promise of getting the performer work.

NOT in advance in any legitimate situation.

IF an agent requires you to pay a FEE of any kind in exchange for representation that is NOT a legitimate agent and you will be throwing away your money. PERIOD.

Agent scams are as old as show business. See my former post on Headshots for some discussion of the old ‘use my photographer’ scam where the ‘agent’ is nothing more
than a referral service for one or more photographers from whom the ‘agent’ receives a kickback.

Old scam, still going on every day in Hollywood and across the country.

2. NEVER pay a casting service that purports to cast roles in film, television or commercials. Casting directors get paid by production companies, not by actors.

I suggest you check out LEGITIMATE casting offices like casting director Beth Sepko’s where you’ll find the following statement. By the way, Beth’s company casts both principal roles and background:

There is NEVER a fee to be registered or on file with our company. There is also NEVER a fee collected from the talent or extras for any booking. We are compensated by the production companies who hire us. Which means we only book talent for projects we are casting.

Google Beth’s name and you’ll find her site. Read all the information there and you’ll get a good idea of how a legitimate, professional casting director works.

Also check out the web site for THE ALLIANCE. There you’ll find a wealth of information about legitimate conduct for actors, agents and casting directors. This information applies nationwide, not just for actors in Central Texas, so if you’re in LA or NYC or Nashville, TN check out these resources for some very solid information.

3. NEVER post your home address and/or home phone number on some internet ‘casting’ site. Most of these sites have as much chance of generating a legitimate casting opportunity as I have of beating Lance Armstrong in a bike race. Not Likely.

I understand that parents and young actors are trying in every way possible to gain entry into a very competitive business that doesn’t seem to have many open doors.

You should understand that most legitimate casting sites, sites that are actually utilized by professional casting and production people, require that talent have some credentials: an agent, legitimate credits, SAG or AFTRA or AEA membership, for instance.

Listing your home phone and address only sets you up to be more easily scammed or possibly worse.

4. NEVER allow you minor child to have a private meeting with a casting person or agent. That is particularly true if you’ve made contact via the internet or, heaven forbid, Craig’s List.

You are a parent first. Your child’s future career, if there is to be one, will not be thwarted because you exercise good parental judgement.

On the other hand, your child’s safety could definitely be compromised if you do not. Unfortunately, pedophiles and other scumbags can be very clever. Wise up.

5. NEVER post provocative photos of yourself or your children on casting forums or sites. Don’t invite trouble. Unless you’re trying to get into the porn business,
no legitimate casting site wants to publish your nude or semi nude photos. Period.

And to wrap this up:

If you get contacted about a casting call, do your homework. Google is your friend. The IMDB is your friend.

The national or regional offices of Screen Actors Guild or AFTRA are your friends. You do not have to be a union member to get lots of FREE information off the SAG dot org site, for instance.

If you have a question about a producer or production that is supposedly shooting in your area, check with SAG. See if it is a signatory production. Not all legitimate productions are SAG signatory, but the SAG office may have information that will be helpful.

Understand that every state has CHILD LABOR LAWS and legitimate casting and agent’s office go out of their way to make sure they are in compliance with all legal requirements for working with or even interviewing minor children.

Finally, don’t be so desperate to break into the film business that you break the rules of common sense. I could go on forever on this subject…and probably have but the situation that prompted this post is disturbing. To resurrect a line from Hill Street Blues (yeah I’m old enough to remember HSB), BE CAREFUL OUT THERE.

A Working Class Actor Looks At The Deal That AFTRA Signed

February 11th, 2009

Self-described ‘working class actor’ John Cygan offers his take on the deal that AFTRA signed and why SAG should not agree to that same deal. What do you think?

SAG South Region Production Update for Texas And Louisiana

December 4th, 2008

Here’s the latest SAG production update that members receive via email. I’m just including Texas and Louisiana here. Note the number of “TH”, that is ‘Theatrical’ contracts in Louisiana vs the number of low budget contracted productions in Texas.

This is a reminder of what is at stake unless the Texas legislature improves the tax incentive program in the upcoming session. Actors, crew and businesses that service film productions can’t survive on low and ultra-low budgeted productions. We must have a better incentive program to lure back at least some of the bigger budgeted films that now go to Louisiana, New Mexico and now Michigan.

If you haven’t already done so, please join the TXMPA and help in the effort to rescue the Texas film industry.

Texas

Apparition – Ultra Low Budget

Firestorm Pictures

Location: Houston, TX

Start Date: To be determined

Beyond the Farthest Star – Low Budget

Pathlight Entertainment, LLC

Location: Dallas-Fort Worth, TX

Start Date: February 2, 2009

Chops, The – Ultra Low Budget

Steven Cortinas

Location: Houston, TX; Los Angeles, CA

Start Date: November 15, 2008

Fifth, The – Ultra Low Budget

Black Cloe Productions

Location: Grandbury, TX

Start Date: December 13, 2008

Kalle King – Low Budget

Susie T. Entertainment

Location: Dallas, TX, New York, NY, Hollywood, CA

Start Date: November 23, 2008

Sweet Justice – Ultra Low Budget

American Film Werkz

Location: Dallas, TX

Start Date: December 4, 2008

Louisiana

Caged Innocence – TH

United Spirits LLC

Location: Shreveport, LA

Start Date: January 10, 2009

Dead Whisper – TH

Dead Whisper Pictures, LLC

Location: New Orleans, LA; Big Bear, CA

Start Date: January 12, 2009

Eyes of the King – Theatrical

Eyes of the King, LLC

Location: Louisiana (non-specific)

Start Date: To be determined

House of Bones – Low Budget Affirmative Action

House of Bones, LLC

Location: New Orleans, LA

Start Date: December 1, 2008

Night of the Demons – Theatrical

Prodigy Entertainment

Location: Baton Rouge, LA

Start Date: To be determined

Three Stories about Joan – Theatrical

Three Stories Productions, LLC

Location: Shreveport, LA

Start Date: To be determined

Friday Night Lights, Alliance Austin Meeting and Web Site Woes

October 29th, 2008

First…sorry for the outage today. My bandwidth has spiked and I outgrew my old hosting plan. In an effort to get things back up ASAP I’m afraid I probably made things worse and lengthened the process. With much thanks to the great support staff at Hostpc.com, I’m back online…for better or worse.

FRIDAY NIGHT LIGHTS….SEASON 3 UPDATE

I was happy to get the call last week that Dr. Campbell, the character I played in Episode 2, “Tami Knows Best” would be reappearing in episode 11, “A Hard Rain’s A-Gonna Fall” now shooting here in Austin. Filming in working hospital in the middle of the day was interesting…may not so much for the real patients…but this crew moves so well and so fast, that I think any interuption was minimal. Look for Matt to have deal with his grandmother’s deteriorating mental health.

Last night was the second big meeting by The Alliance Austin, a cooperative of Central Texas casting directors, talent agents and acting coaches. Speakers at this meeting were:

Representative Dawnna Dukes, Texas State Representative, District 46
 http://www.house.state.tx.us/members/dis…

Nan Bernstein, Producer ­ Friday Night Lights
 http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0076987/

Bob Hudgins, Texas Film Commissioner
 http://www.governor.state.tx.us/film/

The bottom line message was that we in Texas have a big fight on our hands to increase our film incentive in the coming legislative session. If you haven’t done so, please join the TXMPA

One of the most sobering statements made last night came from Texas Film Commission head, Bob Hudgins. Although the current Texas film incentive authorized by the state was capped at $20million over two years, Hudgins says its not likely that even that paltry amount will be expended. Why? Out current 5% incentive is so low that we are not even attracting enough production to deplete the $20Million that is available. We MUST have an increase in our INCENTIVE PERCENTAGE in order to compete with our primary competition in Louisiana and New Mexico.

SAG Film Production List – Texas And Louisiana

October 10th, 2008

This is a partial list of signatory productions and productions that have begun but not completed the SAG signatory process. There are some productions missing from this list: ALABAMA MOON which is prepping to shoot in the New Orleans area (Covington) and is being directed by Tim McCanlies, is not on this list. Nor is the TEMPLE GRANDIN project for HBO which is now shooting in Austin. But, this is the list distributed by SAG to members, so take it for what it’s worth.

I’m including only Texas and Louisiana in this post. New Mexico production was not a part of this list which was only for the South Region.

Once again, this list is illustrative of the current state of affairs of Texas film production.

Note the number of Theatrical contracts in Texas vs those in Louisiana. The theatrical contracts are generally for films with budgets over +/- $2 million. The Low Budget and Ultra Low Budget contracts specify much lower budget thresholds. Which state has the bigger budgeted projects?

Most producers will not accept direct submissions and will only consider performers submitted by talent agents. Since they do not accept direct submissions, many producers will not grant permission to include casting information or production office address data on these communications. If the information does not appear on this update, it was not made available to the Guild for publication.

Texas

American Cartel – Ultra Low Budget
Agave Productions, LLC
Location: San Antonio, TX
Start Date: 8/24/08

Code Enforcer – Ultra Low Budget
Steve Cauley
Location: Austin, TX
Start Date: To be determined

Elbows and Vogues – Ultra Low Budget
Nexus Entertainment
Location: Dallas, TX
Start Date: To be determined

Friday Night Lights – TV Series
NBC Studios, Inc.
Location – Austin, TX
Start Date: August 1, 2008
Casting: Beth Sepko

Guys – Low Budget
Guys the Movie, LLC
Location: Austin, TX
Start Date: To be determined

Unbridled–Low Budget
Unbridled the Movie, LLC
Location: Brackettville & Jacksboro, TX
Start Date: To be determined

Year of the Rat – Low Budget Modified
Year of the Rat, LP
Location: Dallas, TX
Start Date: To be determined

Louisiana

Caged Innocence – TH
United Spirits LLC
Location: Shreveport, LA
Start Date: October 27, 2008

Dead Whisper – TH
Dead Whisper Pictures, LLC
Location: New Orleans, LA; Big Bear, CA
Start Date: November 10, 2008

Dolo TV aka Justice for All
DMG Holdings, LLC
Location: Baton Rouge, LA
Start Date: October 2, 2008

Eyes of the King – Theatrical
Eyes of the King, LLC
Location: Louisiana (non-specific)
Start Date: October 1, 2008

Gator – TH
Gator Films, LLC
Location: Lafayette, LA
Start Date: September 20, 2008

Heroes and Villains – Theatrical
Capstone Entertainment Group, LLC
Location: Vancouver, CA; New Orleans, LA
Start Date: September 1, 2008 (through February 2009)

His Kind of Woman – Theatrical
His Kind of Woman Productions, LLC
Location: New Orleans, LA; Santa Fe, NM
Start Date: October 15, 2008

Hunting Ground – Ultra Low Budget
Film Froggie Productions, LLC
Location: Metairie, LA
Start Date: October 1, 2008

Jack of Spades, The – Ultra Low Budget
The Jack of Spades Production Company
Location: New Orleans, LA
Start Date: September 8, 2008

Jaws of the Mississippi – Low Budget Modified
Jaws Productions, LLC
Location: Lafayette, LA
Start Date: October 22, 2008

Jesus in Cowboy Boots – Theatrical
Trailer Park Productions, LLC
Location: Shreveport, LA
Start Date: September 15, 2008

Keep Coming Back – Theatrical
Trailer Park Productions, LLC
Location: New Orleans, LA
Start Date: July 14, 2008 (through December 1, 2008)

King of Rhythm – Theatrical
United Spirits, LLC
Location: Shreveport, LA
Start Date: September 15, 2008

Leaves of Grass – Theatrical
Leaves Productions, LLC
Location: Shreveport, LA
Start Date: September 22, 2008

My Own Love Song – Theatrical
Cinemotion, LLC
Location: New Orleans, LA
Start Date: October 13, 2008

Night of the Demons – Theatrical
Prodigy Entertainment
Location: Baton Rouge, LA
Start Date: To be determined

Skateland – Theatrical
Skateland Productions, LLC
Location: Shreveport, LA
Start Date: October 20, 2008

Three Stories about Joan – Theatrical
Three Stories Productions, LLC
Location: Shreveport, LA
Start Date: October 2, 2008

Unraveled – Low Budget Modified
Unraveled Productions, LLC
Location: Baton Rouge, LA
Start Date: October 6, 2008

THE NETWORK AUSTIN MIXER – THE ALLIANCE

September 22nd, 2008

WHAT: The Network Austin Mixer
WHEN: Wednesday September 24 – Speakers at 7 PM — Network Till Late
WHERE: Mother Egan‚s Irish Pub – 715 West 6th St. Austin, TX
WHO: Everyone involved in film and media… and YOU!

SPEAKERS: A Panel of Speakers from THE ALLIANCE
* Donise Hardy, President, Talent Works-USA
* Veronica Kelly-Albiez, Vice President, DVA Talent
* Liz Atherton, TAG Talent
* Heather Collier, Collier Talent
* Gabe Folse, State Theater

Our September 24 Mixer will feature the panel of Speakers listed above from
THE ALLIANCE, a cooperative of Casting Directors, Talent Agents and Acting
Coaches that provides insights into the needs and concerns of the acting
community. SEE: http://www.theallianceaustin.com/index.h….

This is a very important Mixer and all actors, and those in the film community in general,
are encouraged to attend.

Please pass on information about our Mixers to your friends and associates
in the film/media industries, and if you have a website associated with
those fields, please post our website - www.networkaustinmixer.com

FWIW: On Photos, Changing Agents – More Advise to Young Actors

September 22nd, 2008

Some months back I was asked to give my opinion about a young actor’s headshot. Over the weekend I received a followup email from the actor who wanted some additional advice about the headshot photo and about the process of changing agents. After I had finished responding to his questions it occurred to me that this information might be helpful to a wider audience. So, without identifying the actor in question I’m copying my response to him below in hopes that some others may find it helpful:

Hi E…,

The photo you attached is fine…as long as it still looks like you. However the truth is you probably need more than one photo. This one is pretty ’serious’…which is good for many roles but might not be good if you were going up for a lighter role or for a commercial. I also suggest you get any new photos taken in color. Many years ago, color photos were only for models but that day has passed. With the advent of digital photography, color headshots have become the norm for actors as well. There is a link on my web site to a local photographer named Kathy Whittaker. I don’t get any money for recommending Kathy, I was just very pleased with her work and her pricing. If you decide to get new shots I’d call around or check web sites to get prices and see whose style appeals most to you. There are a number of good photographers in town.

BUT if you’re looking at changing agents, I’d wait on new photos until you get the agent thing settled. Then go over the issue of photos with your agent and see what kind of photos they want you to have…they’ll give you some opinions on how the think they can best market you.

If you’re going to try to establish a working relationship with any agent, it’s best to [not only] enlist their input [but] then to do what they say and see how that works. Also get the agent’s recommendations about photographers. As long as you are with a reputable agency, then you shouldn’t have to worry about getting scammed by an agent who makes money off photographer’s referral fees…an OLD scam in the agency business. Continue to check with your peers about their representation and about who shot their pictures, etc. That kind of information can be gold to you and save you from making some mistakes.

As to changing agents…

I don’t know who you signed with or the terms of the contract. Typically there is an ‘out’ clause in every talent contract..for both the talent and the agent. If you haven’t been working and they aren’t calling and the contract is still in force, a simple letter terminating the agreement should do the trick. But check your contract for specifics such as the requirement that the letter be [sent by] certified mail, etc. Depending on how long ago you signed the contract, it may no longer be in force. Again, check your copy of the agreement.

BUT before you do seek a new agent there is something that you might want to consider: It sounds like you haven’t been a very good client to this agent. I don’t say that to be critical but just in response to your representation that you haven’t been available because of school. Nothing will turn off ANY agent faster than a talent who is not available for auditions.

Once in a while is not a problem, but after a few times…or worse, if the talent just doesn’t return the agent’s call…or EVEN WORSE if the talent accepts the audition and then gets busy with class or whatever and DOESN’T SHOW AT THE AUDITION, the agent gets the idea that the talent is not really serious and they move on to those who are.

Not showing up for an audition appointment is NOT ACCEPTABLE as it can give you AND your agent a black eye with the casting person. I’m not saying you stiffed the agent on auditions, because I don’t know that. I’m just saying…agency and talent relationships are a two way street. SO…before changing agents, you may want to get back in touch with your present agent and have a discussion about how you’re now ready to be available and serious about getting acting work. If you liked this agent well enough to sign with them in the first place, maybe you don’t need to change agents, just get back in their good graces.

Otherwise, truly, in this market I think all the agents are going to provide similar results. Just go with someone with whom you feel a connection and then do your part by getting them the photos they want and need and by being available when they call…by taking some classes if possible to show you’re continuing to study, etc.

Also you’re going to want to get up to speed with a few services like NOW CASTING and ACTORS ACCESS. Those are two online casting sites that many/most agents and casting people are now utilizing. At least familiarize yourself with those sites so you can ask potential agents if they use them and what they expect from you in terms of getting signed up…they’re both free to actors.

Find someone you ‘like’ and stay with them.

I’ve had a LOT of agents in my career and sometimes a change of agent is about all an actor thinks they can do to get things jump started. You have to understand the realities of the market in which you’re working. Right now, local production is way down due to the lack of an adequate tax incentive program in Texas. That lack has resulted in a LOT of work moving to other states like Louisiana and New Mexico and even Michigan.

At this time and in this market…given the statement in the paragraph above, I would discourage moving from agent to agent because I just don’t see the point. All the [reputable] agents will get all the calls from the casting people. If you establish that you are serious about acting and do your part, the agent, whichever agency you are with, will probably get you out. All the agent can do is give the actor an opportunity, it’s up to the actor to book the job. Easy money, right? Hah!

You might take a look at agency web sites and see which agents seem to have the most talent who ‘look’ like you and which don’t. You might consider approaching an agent who DOESN’T already have 10 guys in your age range and with your ‘look’…so you will fill a need for that agent.

Hope this helps some. It’s a long road and it takes a lot of persistence, patience and work to get anywhere. Best of luck and keep in touch.

Tommy

August Production Update from SAG

August 7th, 2008

The following productions has approached SAG about shooting under a SAG signatory agreement. Not all of these projects will necessarily end up going SAG, so ‘buyer’ beware:

American Cartel – Ultra Low Budget

Agave Productions, LLC

Location: San Antonio, TX

Start Date: August 24, 2008

Devil’s Thumb – Low Budget Modified

Ranch Studios

Location: Austin, TX

Start Date: August 4, 2008

Friday Night Lights – TV Series

NBC Studios, Inc

Location: Austin, TX

Start Date: July 2008

Casting: Beth Sepko

Guys – Low Budget

Guys the Movie, LLC

Location: Austin, TX

Start Date: To be determined

More Moments the Go – Ultra Low Budget

Blank Action Productions

Location: Austin, TX.

Start: July 8, 2008

Portion 71 – Ultra Low Budget

Manny Hernandez

Location: Dallas, TX

Start Date: To be determined

Power Sun, A – Ultra Low Budget

Field Up Productions

Location: Dallas, TX

Start Date: To be determined

Unbridled–Low Budget

Unbridled the Movie, LLC

Location: Brackettville & Jacksboro, TX

Start Date: To be determined

Friday Night Lights Warms Up For Season 3

August 6th, 2008

FRIDAY NIGHT LIGHTS3Given the paucity of film work in the state due to lack of a competitive tax incentive package, the start of FRIDAY NIGHT LIGHTS, Season 3 is a most welcome event. That is even more true this year since PRISON BREAK has fled Texas to hide out in the Los Angeles area, leaving FNL as Texas’ lone ongoing prime-time series in production.

Emmy winning Casting Director Beth Sepko’s office as well as the production offices have been crammed with actors reading for upcoming episodes over the past couple of weeks.

Yours truly is happy to have snagged a role as Dr. Campbell, doctor to Grandma Saracen in Episode 2.

Ellen Page starrer Skates to Michigan and Kick The Can Resurfaces

June 5th, 2008

KICK THE CAN, which folded in Austin just days before shooting was to begin a few weeks back, has resurfaced. According to an email blast to SAG members, the quirky film based on Jim Lehrer’s book is slated to begin production in Houston on June 16th. At least the new location isn’t Shreveport, LA or Ypsilanti, MI.

Speaking of which…

So much for WHIP IT being filmed where the story takes place…Austin, Texas. Michigan’s 40% film incentive program was too much to resist for the producers of the the $15 Million production starring the red-hot and fabulous Ellen Page.

BY JOE O’CONNELL

‘Whip It’ snaps up wolverine cash

The Drew Barrymore-directed Whip It soon would be filming entirely in
Austin, if Texas offered 15% incentives instead of its current 5%.
That’s the word from Bob Hudgins, head of the Texas Film Commission, who
has been courting the Austin-set film written by Shauna Cross, who grew
up in Austin, and dealing with the Roller Derby revival that began in
Austin. Instead, it’s going to Michigan, where Barrymore was spotted
last week scouting locations in Ypsilanti and where they’ll offer up a
whopping 42% financial incentive for the film said to have a budget in
the $15 million range. “Drew really, really wanted to do it here, but
financially there’s such a difference to what they’re getting in
Michigan,” Hudgins says. How could a 15% incentive (a figure Texas film
insiders are hoping to convince the Legislature is viable) potentially
beat out 42%? Barrymore’s film will have to import a Los Angeles crew to
Michigan. The Texas plan was to bring in only three people from Los
Angeles, Hudgins says, with the rest of the hires entirely local. Most
states offering incentives hook them to the hiring of local crew, but
Michigan is using its gaudy incentives to start a film industry from
nothing, so they’ll offer payments, as Hudgins puts it, for anyone who
breathes.